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  • Losing our virginity…it happens to almost all of us, no matter who we are or where we come from. How did it happen for you? Ever wondered what other people think and feel about this never-to-be-repeated experience? And how much more do we learn as we grow up? I am on a mission to find out. Follow my journey as I collect stories from as wide a selection of British people as possible. From men and women, old and young, gay, straight, Christian, Muslim and Catholic, from the funny and the sad, to the happy and occasionally, the unbelievable. How do I find people to interview? Why do they talk to me? I am in search of the truth. Come and join my adventure.

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September 2007

September 29, 2007

This Wheel's on Fire....

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Last week’s book cover prompted this little recollection from a new correspondent.

‘I instantly recognized the cover photograph of Alan Harris’s, 'Questions about Sex'. I bought a copy, possibly one of the first editions, and read it way back in those heady days. Actually, back in those ‘Woodstock’ times, I always wore a navy blue suit, collar and tie, except when I was working as a farm casual laborer, and thought premarital sex was very wrong and shocking! However, I did play the guitar. This volume is almost certainly still in my dusty bookshelves, somewhere.’

Cripes, I'm getting mail from Bob Dylan!


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Suits? Woodstock? Guitars?
All makes sense to me....

Moving swiftly on….Oh to be freelancing. I say that because if I were freelancing I would have access to a scanner and if I had access to a scanner, I could show you the inside pages of said book, which I noticed as I flipped idly through its pages this morning. Scrawled on the inside cover in biro are the following words, ‘To be passed on’. What a good idea, the information contained within such a tome was hardly the everyday in 1968.

Passed on it clearly was. Written in electric red felt tip are the words, ‘Congratulations from Chris and Chris’. After Chris and Chris had had a good old read, they passed it onto ‘Eric, Ginny and Steve’. But not before they coloured in the rather impressive looking erection on page six with their bright red felt tip pen. Funny.

On another note, it’s been a while since I heard from my regular religious correspondent. He’s gone to ground. Perhaps this might perk him up. As I wondered through the blogosphere this morning, I came across the superbly named bustedhalo.com and Sister Mary Eve, a nun who recently received, divinely I like to think, a copy of Eve Ensler’s, ‘Vagina Monologues’. A top read and I am hoping this might stir him into action so to speak. Sorry in advance for my cheekiness.

While you’re there, give this a bash too. Joseph Marchelewski gives us ‘Ten random thoughts’ on the impending loss of his 27-year-old virginity.

Happy Saturday!

September 26, 2007

My my, Hey hey....

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Today is a full moon. And it’s not just any old full moon, my friends. Oh no. Today is an Aries full moon, and, as you might have gathered, I am an Aries. To celebrate my four-legged, two-horned day of self, I am adding a widget to my Blog that I have been resisting for some time. What has the moon got to do with virginity? My point exactly. Or at least that’s what I thought.

A quick Google takes us from the most tenuous of links – did you know that Air’s first album was called MOON Safari and their second, The VIRGIN Suicides? Right through to the downright significant. Artemis is the goddess of the moon……..and virginity. The moon represents cycles, fertility, endings – and beginnings. We even have a ‘chaste moon’. That happens in March so no need to watch your step just yet. No, September is the harvest moon, so in the words of the great Neil Young...

…there’s a full moon risin'
Lets go dancin’ in the light
We know where the music’s playin’
Lets go out and feel the night…


Good lord, I love the Internet.

September 24, 2007

It could be you!

Citizens of the world, I invite you to have your say.

Do you read some of the stuff on this Blog and think ‘what a load of old tripe’? Or have you got something to add? Either way, I would love to hear from you. Perhaps you might like to take a trip down your very own memory lane - or throw a question out into cyber space? What does virginity loss mean to you? Something? Nothing? Or everything? Maybe you have lost virginity of an entirely different kind lately. As a friend once famously said, ‘each time I make love to a new woman, I feel like I am losing my virginity all over again’. Agree? Whatever you think, if you have a story to tell, or just want to heckle, drop me a line.

All names will be changed to protect identity. Get scratching comrades.

katemonroe@yahoo.com

September 22, 2007

If it's all the same to you...

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Following on in the general theme of retrospection, here is the cover of a rather fantastic book I recently found. When I first opened the cover, I noticed this, printed on the first page:

‘First published in May 1968
Reprinted in the same month
Third impression August 1968
Fourth impression June 1970
Fifth impression January 1973
Sixth impression (revised) June 1973’


Cruising around YouTube lately, I also unearthed this handy film:

This film has been viewed 360,563 times.

It makes you think doesn’t it?

In forty years, we have done some stuff. This might sound funny to someone of a certain age, but I still get a buzz from the fact that I have my very own telephone, one that I can pluck from the back pocket of my jeans everytime it rings. Anyone under the age of 18 will have no idea how much time I spent sitting and staring at this version that was attached to my parent’s kitchen wall. Cordless? We had to wait another ten years for that. Quite asides from the fact that I control my own fertility, (my mother had no such luxury). I can also book a flight to Paris, Copenhagen or Brussels, (on my small, neat laptop, whilst utilizing the local supply of broadband technology), for under £50 quid without leaving the house. I might even consider this, if I had more money than sense.

But some things don’t change.

‘How does sexual intercourse take place?
What do people feel like during intercourse?
What is masturbation?
What is V.D? Why is it dangerous?’

These are chapter headings from a book first published in 1968. They are also questions that are answered in this film. It doesn’t matter how far we ‘advance’ in this world. It makes no odds how sophisticated the methods by which information can be delivered become. Young people have the same questions about sex now as they did then. Go figure.

September 18, 2007

Cheap day return....

A great day has arrived. Look at these two little beauties that were parked up, side by side in my inbox last week. The bizarre thing is that they are completely unrelated, therefore proving the theory that the moment you lose the will to live at the metaphorical bus stop, six buses will arrive at once. The first, below, comes from a Welsh man whom I will soon be interviewing:

‘Heard about the project today. It's an interesting subject for many reasons........rather intriguingly, it lead me to think about how I lost my own virginity. I'm 29 now and it happened when I was 16 - I paid a prostitute. I'd love to tell you about the experience as I've never fully shared it with anyone. How surprising then, to see your blog when I got to work and to see you are looking for someone just like me.’

Yes, I am!!

And the next, short, but sweet, is for your eyes only:

Email no. 2:

‘Are you still looking for someone who lost his virginity to a Prostitute? I did.

In 1965, I was sixteen and I bought a motorbike. We lived in rural Sussex so it gave me great freedom, I could get to London in an hour and spend the day there. When you’re sixteen, very few girls of your own age want to have sex with you, so I went to strip clubs where you could see everything for £1.50. Even then it seemed a cheap day out.

There was no peer pressure. I was entirely motivated by hormones, I still am. As I walked through Soho, I saw lots of shops with multiple doorways. Finally, one day I plucked up courage and pushed the one labelled 'French model, please walk up'. The door was opened by a 'maid' who was about sixty, who showed me into the 'model's’ room.

She was French, and aged about fifty. She said that undressing was extra, but she was charmed by my schoolboy French. She charged me two pounds and asked for a tip for the maid - ten shillings. She lay down on the bed and held my penis to get me hard. She wouldn't let me kiss her, but we had sex and I was no longer a virgin.

I was a bit ashamed - and a bit excited. I wouldn’t admit to my friends that I had to pay for it and I certainly wouldn't tell my parents. It didn't do me any harm, but then I think that losing your virginity is only one part of your developing sexuality. I have always had a high sex drive and my various partners have indulged my sexual demands, by which I mean, I like my partners to dress and act as prostitutes, amongst other things. My father was the same - he found it difficult to have sex with my mother after we children were born and took a mistress. A mistress for sex – and a wife for cooking and parenting. I always found it easy to combine all the roles in my partner. This is all getting very Freudian.’

Like my trip back to Victoriana the other day, this story says far more about the changing faces of women than it does about men that pay money to lose their virginity. For David’s father, it was beyond the pale to imagine his wife in the role of sexual seductress once she had given birth to their children. The solution? A Mistress, of course. Today’s mother and wife will manage both these parts to perfection with a cameo role thrown in – that of glittering career woman. Blimey, it’s a busy old life.

September 15, 2007

A load of old virginity...

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Virginity and its loss is not all about the first experience of penetrative sex. For some people, virginity was an attitude, a way of life, a behavioural pattern. My well thumbed copy of Hanne Blank’s book, ‘Virgin – The Untouched History’, reveals that thirteenth century theologian, Thomas Aquinas, spoke of a spritualis castitas, or a spiritual chastity, that dealt with, ‘the refusal to enjoy things that were judged to be against God’s design’. One wonders what they might have been? Was there a thirteenth century equivalent of reality TV?

Greek poet, Bacchylides said, 'As a skilful painter gives a face beauty, just so chastity gives charm to a life of high aims'. Even in pre-Christian times, chastity and celibacy were two very different ideas. But the Victorians…….well, the Victorians turned virginity into an art form.

“Ladies, just a little more virginity, if you don’t mind”. So said actor, Herbert Beerbohn Tree, sometime between his birth in 1852 and his death, in 1917. And whilst it probably helps to know, that due to various indiscretions, somewhere along the line, the dear man helped to sire the father of actor, Oliver Reed, Mr Tree was very much a product of the Victorian era, a bunch of people who knew a thing or two about virginity.

I know this because last week, the BBC sent me up to Manchester to take part in ‘Woman’s Hour’, as part of their ‘Sex lives of us’ week. Not only did they send me to Manchester but also into a vague head spinning kind of panic. It’s live! It’s a British institution! What do I really know about anything anyway? This was compounded by the sheer brains and background of my co-guest, the lovely Anka Bernau, author of a new book, ‘Virgins – A Cultural History’. Boy, did we have some talking to do. I don’t meet a lot of other people who spend most of their time thinking about virginity loss. That asides, Anka is also an academic and she knows a thing or two about, well, most things.

In response, I killed an afternoon in ad-land by doing some research and pretty much disappeared into a by-gone era. This website absolutely kills me. The sections on Victorian etiquette are something to behold. Can you even imagine how life must have felt for the Victorians whilst trying to simultaneously exist and remembering all the things that they shouldn’t be doing? This takes the idea of a virginity related attitude to a whole new level. Here are some basic rules to get you started:

'Remember that, valuable as is the gift of speech, silence is often more valuable.

Learn to speak in a gentle tone of voice.

Learn to say kind and pleasant things when opportunity offers.

Learn to govern yourself and to be patient.

Learn to deny yourself and prefer others'.

OK, try to remember all that whilst visiting your friends and remembering this:

'Do not be in haste to seat yourself; one appears fully as well and talks better, standing for a few moments.

A man should never take any article from a woman's hands--book, cup, flower, etc.

Do not meddle with, or stare at the articles in the room.

Do not toss over the cards in the card receiver.

Do not scratch your head or use a toothpick, ear spoon or comb.

Use a handkerchief when necessary, but without glancing at it afterwards.

Do not tell long stories, argue, talk scandal or rumors.'

And god forbid you make any of these, the worst possible kind of faux-pas ….

'To remove one's gloves when making a formal call. Good grief.

To stare around the room. NO!!!!!

To walk around the room when waiting for the hostess. Please stop.

To look at your watch when calling. Well that’s just rude in anyone’s book.

To make remarks about another caller who has just left the room. Ditto the above.'

Look at how much our world has changed in a century. Can you even imagine for one second what a Victorian lady might make of the life of a woman in 2007? Because quite frankly, my life is an orgy of walking around rooms whilst waiting for hostesses, making remarks about callers who have just left the room and the removal of gloves whilst making formal calls. Alongside the occasional binge drinking session, (two pints of lager in my case), unmarried ‘relations’, and my weekly guilty pleasure session – reading 'Grazia' in the bath for an hour and a half.

I would make a terrible Victorian. I am sticking to the modern definition of virginity. It’s so much easier.

September 12, 2007

To bee or not to bee..

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For anyone who reads this blog regularly, you will know that I have been hot on the trail of a man who lost his virginity to a prostitute for an age. The words ‘bee’ and ‘bonnet’ spring to mind. You might also know that as a result of this blog, I correspond with a number of people, old and young, who for one reason or another, have not lost their virginity.

To this end, one of them recently signed off an email to me with the following statement…..

‘P.S. I fleetingly considered visiting a prostitute so that you could finally get the story you want, but then thought about it again, it would just be weird! lol! :-)’

Bless you M, you know who you are..

September 10, 2007

In god we trust?

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Once again, the message rings home. Virginity is a hot topic, and it always will be. I’m no agony aunt, but it gets harder not to chuck my ten pence worth in when you get emails like this. If I could also post the response from the contributor’s brother, an email that exhorts the lady in question to stay chaste for the remainder of her days, (she is 34), you would really get the point.

Sadie writes, that, ‘figuring out what to do with my virginity has been harder than coming out in many ways’. And this, from the daughter of an evangelical pastor. For better or worse, for many Brits, the loss of virginity has become the barometer of social acceptance, a way in which to blend in with the crowd. Stateside, the story is quite different. Virginity and its loss is couched in a new language. Politicians talk about ‘abstinence’ and pastors speak of ‘purity’. But in the end, it all boils down to one simple question. Is it right to ask a person not to lose their virginity?

Sadie. Born 1973.

‘So I just found your blog because I wished that I could read about other people’s virginity loss stories. Finding it was really helpful.

What do you think of this?

All my close friends were actually virgins when they got married. My friend Tami didn't even kiss her boyfriend until he became her fiancé. My brother didn't kiss his wife until their wedding day. He was a virgin. This is the environment I grew up in.

And me? Well, I kissed someone for the first time this year at age thirty-four and I am still a virgin. Why? Because I never cared much if I kissed a boy and all my friends were good Christians. And being gay doesn't really go down well in the evangelical community. It took me until this year to, ‘come out’ and go on a date. And I still haven't lost my virginity because my head is so messed up about it. And also because my family and community thinks that since I'm gay, I have to stay celibate.

But I've noticed that the women I know around here, the ‘good’ Christian women who stayed single and virgins all seem dead inside. I think one or two of them may be gay and so they did the celibacy thing and they died inside. Can you be fully alive and celibate? I do not know, but it sure seems like killing that part of yourself kills another part of oneself as well.

I grew up mostly in Minnesota, USA, in the home of an evangelical pastor and a stay-at-home mom. I remember having one conversation about sex in late elementary school while getting my hair cut. Both my parents sat me down and explained what sex was. Love, and the man entering the woman. I thought it was the most disgusting thing I had ever heard and I felt really uncomfortable. After that, all I heard for the most part was how we are so tempted to sin and how important virginity was until you are married and how very careful I had to be around boys, (which was never any issue for me because I never liked them). For protestant evangelical Christians, sex is the ultimate sin.

I still hold to my Christian ideals and all but... I don't know which happened first, but somewhere in the last couple years, I saw ‘The Vagina Monologues’. And afterwards I thought, I don't even know where mine is, (metaphorically speaking). And I don't want to die without ever kissing someone. I don't want this to be my life. I want to be embodied. I need to at least figure out how to be OK enough to feel ‘turned on’, without guilt. Somewhere in there, I stopped hating myself if I masturbated and I decided to let my body just be. This was OK for me, because I still wasn't having sex so it was a safe first step. One that was just a tiny bit more spacious. I just figured that God made my body and now I just want to know it a bit too.

I just wanted to tell some anonymous person out in cyber space how messed up all this virginity and losing it stuff is in the Christian community. Figuring out what to do with my virginity has been harder than coming out in some ways. And coming out is hard because I am a pastor’s kid. The girl that I kissed said her friends always tell her not to date virgins because we are too sensitive. Ug. So Christians in my community are freaked out by me because I am gay and people outside of my community won't date me because I am a virgin.

Two things help right now. For the first time ever, I am meeting other solid good Christian people who are gay and who respect the bible, but read it differently. And that has helped a TON. I also started just trusting myself and knowing myself enough to say that this is me and this is what I want.

Virginity sucks!’

September 07, 2007

Island life.....

Ok, so I lied about the bit about my mother being a virgin. By the time I was born, I was already the proud owner of two older brothers and a sister, and it all began, at least in my case, at The Star Hotel in Greece. It was the summer of ‘67 and my parents had fled a war, and a life, in Beirut. En route to England, they enjoyed the charms of a small Greek island and nine months later, out I popped. Fast-forward forty years and here I am, back at the place I begun. Creepy? A little. Paradise? Most definitely.


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Spetses is a beautiful island. Five miles across, it is coloured with a thick coating of lime green trees. But the jewel in the crown is the sea and it is a constant canvas of change. All life here revolves around it and in it. Boats come and go ferrying people, cars, animals and food. Fisherman fish. Walk past them and you’ll see a man cutting his catch. Out of the sea and into the soup pot, he tells me as an eel squirms between his thick fingers and tries to wiggle its way back to the water. People swim, in the harbour, on the beaches and off rocks. Mostly for pleasure, but often for business. One day I watched two bald men tread water for almost fifty minutes. I couldn’t see their suits but I got the distinct impression that they were cutting a deal. The sea is as good a place as any boardroom.

And me? I was flat on my back in the sand. Did I mention the heat? Oh my, it was hot. Between books, suntan lotion and food, I lay in the sun, soaking it up like a re-chargeable battery, my concentration broken only once, on the day that the charge of the jellyfish occurred. A frisky wind blew these plate sized wine gums into shore. It was like a scene from Jaws. Children were snatched from water and men brandished sticks and paddles.


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It was all the funnier the next day when two laughing Greek children plucked one out of the water and balanced it between four pudgy little arms under the watchful eye of their mother. Ok, so they’re not poisonous then. The beach heaved a collective sigh of relief. With a shade of embarrassment thrown in.

Day melted into equally hot nights and I occasionally allowed myself to be entertained by the antics of a middle-aged fisherman called Lakis Spiliotis.

‘Are you a Frenchman?’ I asked one evening. He was wearing a blue and white striped top with a black beret. ‘No’, he said. ‘I am a fisherman. I just like to dress up is all.’

‘What are you coming as tomorrow night?’ I asked.

‘A cowboy’, he said. And he did. Here you will have to insert your own mental picture of a grizzly fifty-six year old man wearing a Stetson and blue jeans tucked into a pair of cowboy boots – and yes, it is just as comical as you imagine.

By this point I had already been made an honoury Spetsian due to the story of my humble beginnings on the island. ‘You should go and see the owner of The Star Hotel’, said Lakis, one night. ‘It’s still the same guy who owned it in ‘67. But take your family with you. Lefteris is seventy-five but he’ll try to make flirt with you’. He laughed a laugh as dirty as dishwater but on my last night I did just that, and it was a showstopper.

‘Are you Lefteris?’ I asked. It couldn’t be anyone else. I knew exactly who he was before I even asked the question. He may have been the owner of a hotel but he looked like the captain of the ship. I held out my hand and introduced myself. ‘I’m Kate’, I said. I couldn’t think how else to explain what I wanted to say, so I just came out with it.

‘My parents conceived me in your hotel in the summer of ‘67.’ The jaw of the American businessman to his left dropped open. ‘Bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo,’ Lefteris kept saying to himself, or to anyone else who would listen as he shook his hands back and forth in rhyme to his voice. He grinned from ear to ear, grabbed my arm and led me to a chair. He wanted to know all the details. Not that I could furnish him with anything but raw facts. I hadn’t been there, but I was now, the three dimensional evidence of my parents union at the Star Hotel in Spetses.

We sat and drank as the sun went down and Lefteris told me about the sausage shaped aircraft that used to transport water to the island in the sixties. They may have been surrounded by the stuff, but it wasn’t for drinking. Stavros Niarchos, the shipping magnate, paid for pipes so that the whole island could enjoy the free flow of fresh water in their homes. We talked about hotel life, package customers versus private and the summer tourist trade. We talked about people, passions and about how life on a tiny Greek island has grown up and changed over the past forty years. He didn’t try to make flirt with me, but the twinkle in his eye was plain to see.

In a curious confluence of time and symbols, the next day, I noticed the passenger boat that docks every single morning in the harbour by the hotel. It’s name?


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